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El mismo kakashi le dice que fue por casualidad.
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dice que crees que es cuasualidad por lo del pedo xD y es obvio, no pensó en tirarse un pedo, estaba acumulando chakra para los clones, en ese golpe kiba no le iba a ganar a naruto, si ya se había comido golpes más fuertes.
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El pedo fue lo que hizo detenerse a kiba sin poder defenderse, un ataque de kiba hubiera echo que se parara la consentracion se chakra de naruto y esté a la merced de kiba otra vez.
ya, y de todas formas iba a ganar por resistencia, kiba ya no daba más. Luego retomando a naruto adulto es aún más resistente. Pudo hacer que kakuzu atacara a un clon con el rasen shuriken pensando que el original solamente podía hacerlo, pero lo engaña y el original ataca desde atrás porque se mezcló con los clones de ataque, esa versatilidad de mucha resistencia/chakra, hace que naruto pueda tener esas estrategias.
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¿Como que kiba no daba más si todo el daño que recibió fue una patada?
Y lo de kakuzu fue porque este pensó que el original no se lanzaría junto a los clones como un loco cuando literalmente a los 5 segundos vio como lo atacó con una técnica que ni había terminado.
No son estrategias bien echas, son tonterías que por alguna razón que sólo el autor sabe es que los enemigos caen en ellas cuando no debería ser así y más cuando tenés a gente con 100 años de experiencia caer en un truco tan tonto como kakuzu.
porque no tiene el chakra para aguantar tanto y utilizó varias técnicas, naruto se tankea los golpes, si hasta peleando con orochimaru aguantó y ya habían pasado varios días.
y aunque te duela, es así, sacar al autor para desvalidar el actuar de un personaje hace perder todo sentido de la discusión, de ser así también diria que el autor de jujutsu se salta cosas a conveniencia xD. Pero estamos hablando de los personajes, naruto pudo engañar a alguien de 100 años de experiencia porque tiene las facultades de hacer uso de clones que replican exactamente todas las técnicas, y esa es la movida de naruto. Lo mismo pasó cuando peleó con neji y este no sabía diferenciar al real.
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He should be able to. What I'm saying is that Sasuke from a young age is strong.
Naruto Post-Training is superior to that Sasuke kid.
I have continued researching, Naruto is superior in speed to Itadori, Itadori can indeed hurt Naruto. But Naruto has several ways to defend and counterattack. The clones are too many and cause as much damage as the real Naruto. Naruto being superior in speed than Itadori takes a lot of advantage. Not only that, he also has Gamabunta that can give battle to a Bijuu.
Konohamaru, one of the grandsons of one of the most renowned ninja in the village of the leaf, was able to defeat a Pain with a Rasengan. So you can see the potential of the technique. And to give you an idea of the power of the Rasengan, here is one of the Pain taking one of the legendary Sannin with his Mode Sage active.
Then read chapter 428 of Naruto.
In the beginning, when Sasuke and Naruto couldn't do anything.
Being a technique that consumes too much chakra. And as I told you then Sasuke left following him.
In other words, the contradiction does not exist.
They use science to determine possible similarities to reality, taking into account that they are fictitious works. At least they use the logical way based on reality. And your point of view may be different.
You've been talking bad about Naruto for half a post, I respond to you this way. Naruto tries hard, he trained, even though he is not as talented as (Sasuke), he can measure himself as an equal.
Naruto has enough chakra and strength to be on Sasuke's level. Only Sasuke is slightly superior to Naruto in speed and reactions. In that part(Garaa vs Naruto). Having the Kurama inside him does not depend much on training like others. Naruto is naturally getting stronger.
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After researching I am now much more confident.
Naruto Post-Training Vs Itadora Post-Shibuya
Naruto 76% chance of victory.
Naruto Post-Training Vs Itadora Post-Shibuya
Naruto 76% chance of victory.
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¿De dónde sacas qué naruto post time skip es superior si no entrenó stats físicos en la serie?He should be able to. What I'm saying is that Sasuke from a young age is strong.
Naruto Post-Training is superior to that Sasuke kid.
I have continued researching, Naruto is superior in speed to Itadori, Itadori can indeed hurt Naruto. But Naruto has several ways to defend and counterattack. The clones are too many and cause as much damage as the real Naruto. Naruto being superior in speed than Itadori takes a lot of advantage. Not only that, he also has Gamabunta that can give battle to a Bijuu.
Konohamaru, one of the grandsons of one of the most renowned ninja in the village of the leaf, was able to defeat a Pain with a Rasengan. So you can see the potential of the technique. And to give you an idea of the power of the Rasengan, here is one of the Pain taking one of the legendary Sannin with his Mode Sage active.
Then read chapter 428 of Naruto.
In the beginning, when Sasuke and Naruto couldn't do anything.
Being a technique that consumes too much chakra. And as I told you then Sasuke left following him.
In other words, the contradiction does not exist.
They use science to determine possible similarities to reality, taking into account that they are fictitious works. At least they use the logical way based on reality. And your point of view may be different.
You've been talking bad about Naruto for half a post, I respond to you this way. Naruto tries hard, he trained, even though he is not as talented as (Sasuke), he can measure himself as an equal.
Naruto has enough chakra and strength to be on Sasuke's level. Only Sasuke is slightly superior to Naruto in speed and reactions. In that part(Garaa vs Naruto). Having the Kurama inside him does not depend much on training like others. Naruto is naturally getting stronger.
No, naruto no es superior en velocidad a itadori.
Ya vimos muchas veces que los clones valen verga por más que sean 2000 clones vs 1 persona.
Gamabunta es muy grande para el tamaño y velocidad de itadori como para ser relevante en la pelea hasta el punto de ser contraproducente por como pelea naruto con sus clones.
Ya sabemos que el rasengan es poderoso, el tema es que naruto le de con ese rasengan a itadori.
La contradicción sigue estando con la velocidad del 4to raikage, el Kirin y el 4to databook.
Eso son pajas mentales de fans, nada es canon de lo que dicen como para usarlo como tal que estas haciendo.
Naruto entrena cosas pero deja de lado el stats físicos y incluso cuando entrena durante 2 años no hizo nada como bien se lo dice sasuke en la cara.
Naruto tiene esos stats físicos del forro del orto porque se le antojo al autor dárselo ya que antes apenas posia ver a kiba para luego seguir a gaara bijuu sin haber entrenado esos stats físicos como si hicieron sasuke o Sakura por ejemplo.
¿Qué tiene que ver qué tenga a Kurama con qué no entrene?
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Garaa from small the sand reacting to the bomb. After Rock Lee, Sasuke, Naruto, Kimimaro, Neji, Haku, Zabuza, Kakashi, Gamabunta<<<<<<Naruto Post-Training<<Sasuke Post-Training
Or if you want we can use scaled power in reverse with the Edo-Tensei, Zabuza Edo, Haku Edo, Kakashi Fourth War = Zabuza, Haku First Part and scaled power from that point. This would be one more plus for Naruto child and from that point we can debate. This I say is not 100% analyzed I would have to explore the chapters again.
Gamabunta that should be on par with the Legendary Sannin in speed. He's big but that doesn't mean he's slow or underpowered. Remember that the little frog that trained Naruto in sage mode, Gamabunta is superior.
As I say, if you read carefully the technique of Itadori is not the speed of the user (combat, movement, reactions), but the duration for which the distortion is executed, which is fast.
This has no relevance against Naruto's speed which is superior to Itadori in (movement, reactions and in combat).
The only thing we have as evidence for Itadori, is Maki reacting and catching a bullet. And on the other hand we have Garaa with automatic protection.
As I told you before, Naruto clones are many, many times they have proven to do harm and also serve as tallow. Besides the clones, there are also the Substitution Jutsu.
The clones are as fast as the user, but their toughness and defense are not as strong. If Naruto's clones were not dangerous, no one would waste time with them.
Gamabunta's role can vary a lot, he can serve as a distraction, attack, defense or preparation, his skills are always required in important combat, See (The battle of the 3 Sannin, Garaa Vs Naruto, Saga Pain, ect). Receives at least scaled power from summoners. (Combat, Speed, Skill) and comparable to at least Garaa's Bijuu.
As I explained in the first point. Naruto>>>Itarori Speed.
At least you accepted that the Rasengan is dangerous.
What part do you want me to explain?
The same sciences and logic are used for all works.
And at the end, several persons meet to determine the reliability.
Well Sasuke has his reasons for saying so, but Itadori is not Sasuke. And from the beginning the Naruto series shows feats superior to what Itadori has shown in speed.
As I tell you, that you want to condition Naruto with Sasuke's words and that doesn't help Itadori.
Simpler
Minimum Feats(Naruto)>>>Greatest Feats(Jujutsu Kaisen)
So Naruto's feats are valid only when Naruto trains?
With this logic we won't get anywhere, I could agree with you if Naruto didn't have Kurama inside him. But he is a very special case, he is not an ordinary ninja.
As I told you earlier Naruto is special for having the Bijuu, although Naruto is not outstanding and he shines in his own way. His base abilities are noticeable thanks to Kurama.
To give an example: Kakashi being an elite ninja, he can't create as many clones as Naruto does.
And Naruto demonstrated that in his first chapter.
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La arena reacciona distinto a la reacción de sasuke, esto se vio en su pelea vs rock lee.
Garaa from small the sand reacting to the bomb. After Rock Lee, Sasuke, Naruto, Kimimaro, Neji, Haku, Zabuza, Kakashi, Gamabunta<<<<<<Naruto Post-Training<<Sasuke Post-Training
Or if you want we can use scaled power in reverse with the Edo-Tensei, Zabuza Edo, Haku Edo, Kakashi Fourth War = Zabuza, Haku First Part and scaled power from that point. This would be one more plus for Naruto child and from that point we can debate. This I say is not 100% analyzed I would have to explore the chapters again.
Gamabunta that should be on par with the Legendary Sannin in speed. He's big but that doesn't mean he's slow or underpowered. Remember that the little frog that trained Naruto in sage mode, Gamabunta is superior.
As I say, if you read carefully the technique of Itadori is not the speed of the user (combat, movement, reactions), but the duration for which the distortion is executed, which is fast.
This has no relevance against Naruto's speed which is superior to Itadori in (movement, reactions and in combat).
The only thing we have as evidence for Itadori, is Maki reacting and catching a bullet. And on the other hand we have Garaa with automatic protection.
As I told you before, Naruto clones are many, many times they have proven to do harm and also serve as tallow. Besides the clones, there are also the Substitution Jutsu.
The clones are as fast as the user, but their toughness and defense are not as strong. If Naruto's clones were not dangerous, no one would waste time with them.
Gamabunta's role can vary a lot, he can serve as a distraction, attack, defense or preparation, his skills are always required in important combat, See (The battle of the 3 Sannin, Garaa Vs Naruto, Saga Pain, ect). Receives at least scaled power from summoners. (Combat, Speed, Skill) and comparable to at least Garaa's Bijuu.
As I explained in the first point. Naruto>>>Itarori Speed.
At least you accepted that the Rasengan is dangerous.
What part do you want me to explain?
The same sciences and logic are used for all works.
And at the end, several persons meet to determine the reliability.
Well Sasuke has his reasons for saying so, but Itadori is not Sasuke. And from the beginning the Naruto series shows feats superior to what Itadori has shown in speed.
As I tell you, that you want to condition Naruto with Sasuke's words and that doesn't help Itadori.
Simpler
Minimum Feats(Naruto)>>>Greatest Feats(Jujutsu Kaisen)
So Naruto's feats are valid only when Naruto trains?
With this logic we won't get anywhere, I could agree with you if Naruto didn't have Kurama inside him. But he is a very special case, he is not an ordinary ninja.
As I told you earlier Naruto is special for having the Bijuu, although Naruto is not outstanding and he shines in his own way. His base abilities are noticeable thanks to Kurama.
To give an example: Kakashi being an elite ninja, he can't create as many clones as Naruto does.
And Naruto demonstrated that in his first chapter.
¿Me estas diciendo que el kakashi con dominio de su mangekyou es más lento que el Zabuza que enfrentó al inicio de la serie?
Porque los edo tensei son más débiles que sus versiones vivas como se vio en la 4ta guerra.
¿Te refieres a pa el que entrenó a Jiraiya y naruto en senjutsu? Si es así, esa rana es superior a gamabunta.
La técnica y el usuario van a esa velocidad, lo mismo pasa con el chidori con su usuario.
Naruto usando miles de clones es malísimo contra alguien como se vio vs sasuke en el hospital o vs kimimaro porque manda de a uno los clones y eso solo hace que los pierda al instante por un golpe del enemigo.
¿De dónde sale que tienen los stats físicos del invocador?
Gamabunta sólo es usado cuando hay otro enemigo gigante porque sino no se usa como se vio en la serie.
La que la serie dice que la persona más rápida va a la velocidad del rayo o que el ataque más rápido de madara rikkudo sea a la velocidad de la luz como.
No, porque están usando lógica cuando desde un inicio el autor no busca que se haga eso sino que es contar su historia. El mismo pone los datos después en palabras de los personajes o con acciones, no espera que unas personas con pajas mentales lo hagan con cálculos.
Si esos feats son lógicos están bien como algunos que tiene naruto como el tema de stamina, chakra, el daño del rasengan, etc pero otros no tienen ni pies ni cabeza porque naruto los obtiene de la nada ya que ni entrena para obtenerlos, es como decir que en el capítulo que viene de Boruto sale que ten ten es MS fuerte que kaguya físicamente porque sí y como sale en la serie ya es canon cuando todos sabemos que eso es imposible y es una fumada del autor.
Naruto es espacial porque es uzumaki, que tenga a Kurama no tiene nada que ver en nada.
No, que kakashi haga menos clones que naruto es porque no tiene el chakra de este al no ser uzumaki como naruto.
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Small Garaa(reacted to the bomb) <<<<Garaa 12 years<<<<Rock Lee, Sasuke, Kimimaro<<<<Naruto Post-Training
As I said about the spoiler I have to check it, I think the Edos were nerfed.
If you bring evidence of that, I accept it. Remember that Pa was killed by Pain without much difficulty.
You are confusing things. I have explained the same thing several times.
Speed of movement is not the same as the speed parameter of the technique.
I repeat again:
Black Flash is a distortion in space that occurs when cursed energy is applied within 0.000001 seconds of a physical hit.
This is not Itadori's movement speed.
Kimimaro and Sasuke are faster than Naruto, and as I said they are not very resistant.
It depends on the user, but in general the invocations are usually powerful. That is why they are used in important combats.
Where is the problem?
Do we take the author's or not?
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Here we see how the clones hit Garaa.
The 2 images are valid? Isn't it true?
The 2 images I put above are both valid or not?
Whatever the reason, Naruto is a ninja with unique abilities and his feats are backed by those specialties.
That he can rival Rock Lee or Sasuke should not be a problem.
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